{"id":71,"date":"2003-07-11T13:48:29","date_gmt":"2003-07-11T17:48:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tradermike.net\/movethecrowd\/2003\/07\/blog_comments_debate\/"},"modified":"2003-07-11T13:48:29","modified_gmt":"2003-07-11T17:48:29","slug":"blog_comments_debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2003\/07\/11\/blog_comments_debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Blog Comments Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s been a debate going on the last few days over <a href=\"http:\/\/wizbangblog.com\/archives\/000287.php\">the usage of comments on blogs<\/a>.  I basically agree with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.electricvenom.com\/oldvenom\/002684.php\">Venomous Kate&#8217;s view on whether blogs need comments<\/a>.  And <a href=\"http:\/\/www.henshall.com\/blog\/archives\/000287.html\">Unbound Spiral adds some good, uh, comments<\/a>.  But I&#8217;d like to add a little twist.  There&#8217;s a serious problem with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.movabletype.org\/trackback\/beginners\/\">TrackBack<\/a>.  Even for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.movabletype.org\/\">Movable Type<\/a>(MT) blogs that have it, most implement it poorly.  Notice how if you go to the page for an individual post (the permalink) you can&#8217;t tell how many TrackBacks there are.  That is, unless the blog owner has modified the individual entry archive template.  This is an oversight in the default MT templates, IMO.  But what I&#8217;d love to see is TrackBacks listed alongside (with) comments, as I have done on this blog.  For MT blogs, this can be done via <a href=\"http:\/\/kalsey.com\/2003\/02\/simplecomments\/\">Adam Kalsey&#8217;s SimpleComments Plugin<\/a>.  As Kalsey says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>TrackBacks are comments. They are comments left on someone else&rsquo;s site rather than your own, but they are comments nonetheless. Movable Type makes a distinction between entry comments and TrackBacks that seems artificial, and it made more sense to me to have TrackBack ping data appear within the comments portion of a Movable Type site.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hopefully MT will put this functionality into a future version.<\/p>\n<p>For a (kinda) related discussion, check out How to Save the World&#8217;s article <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.salon.com\/0002007\/2003\/06\/26.html#a284\">&#8216;What the Blogosphere Needs More Of&#8217;<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s been a debate going on the last few days over the usage of comments on blogs. I basically agree with Venomous Kate&#8217;s view on whether blogs need comments. And Unbound Spiral adds some good, uh, comments. But I&#8217;d like to add a little twist. There&#8217;s a serious problem with TrackBack. Even for the Movable&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2003\/07\/11\/blog_comments_debate\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Blog Comments Debate<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":425,"url":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2004\/12\/12\/mt-blacklist_corrections_and_suggestions\/","url_meta":{"origin":71,"position":0},"title":"MT-Blacklist Corrections and Suggestions","date":"December 12, 2004","format":false,"excerpt":"In case you haven't seen it already, there's an important post about some changes to the MT-Blacklist master blacklist on Jay Allen's site. Jay gives some suggestions about some expressions and URL Patterns to add to your blacklist. As an aside, I'm still trippin' off of the amount of comment\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":324,"url":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2004\/05\/13\/let_the_movable_type_exodus_begin\/","url_meta":{"origin":71,"position":1},"title":"Let the Movable Type Exodus Begin","date":"May 13, 2004","format":false,"excerpt":"Six Apart has just announced their new licensing and pricing of Movable Type 3. In short, if you want more than one author or more than three blogs, you'll have to pay at least $69.95 (that's a limited offer sale, normal price is $99.99). The cost goes up to $699.95\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":279,"url":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2004\/02\/22\/back_on_the_block\/","url_meta":{"origin":71,"position":2},"title":"Back on the Block","date":"February 22, 2004","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm back! The flood of hits from me posting the Janet pictures sucked up all of my bandwidth for the month. That forced me to make the move to a new host which I'd been putting off for months. Once my domain name transfer went through I embarked on the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":443,"url":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2005\/01\/19\/new_movable_type_plugin_for_fighting_comment_spam\/","url_meta":{"origin":71,"position":3},"title":"New Movable Type PlugIn for Fighting Comment Spam","date":"January 19, 2005","format":false,"excerpt":"If you're using Movable Type be sure to install the new 'nofollow' plugin. It implements a new way of marking links in comments and trackbacks so that they will be ignored by search engines. Let's see what the spammers do now to try to get around this. (hat tip to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":238,"url":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2003\/11\/02\/loving_my_spam_filter\/","url_meta":{"origin":71,"position":4},"title":"Loving My Spam Filter","date":"November 2, 2003","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm really liking the way that MT-Bayesian is working out. Not only is it catching spam, but it's also filtering out the ignorant comments that we all get every so often. You know the type -- those comments in which every other word is a curse word, and the rest\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":220,"url":"http:\/\/www.michaelseneadza.com\/blog\/2003\/10\/15\/james_sengs_bayesian_filter_for_fighting_blog_spam\/","url_meta":{"origin":71,"position":5},"title":"James Seng&#8217;s Bayesian Filter for Fighting Blog Spam","date":"October 15, 2003","format":false,"excerpt":"Let me first say that James Seng is the man! A few days ago he provided the world with his excellent CAPTCHA-based spam solution for Movable Type blogs. Now he's created another spam blocker which uses a Bayesian filter. This new filter works on TrackBacks too. 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